New Abbott strategy

[Battleworm]

Morning folks,

I was thinking about the abbott raid yesterday and thought of a possibly neat way to beat it fast and easy.Key word being fast.First,everyone has to be in reaver's refuge.have 11 people grab fly and one have caster who won't get fly wait for group in explorer area ( can also be done with 6 just harder) GT to necropolis.Haste and run inside abbott.Start fighting asap.The trick here is i think from testing that his spells are all linear and won't be shot vertically.So pulverize him from above.Once you get teleported,fly through chasm / water and do the window trick for asteroids.Cleric cast death pact on self when back to main room - it does work i tried it myself.The only difference is if/when you die you get no popup to rez,you're just instantly back to life so gotta be quick.I got encased while soloing with battle and died but used deathpact to rez.

Sorry for the wall of text,very busy at work today and no time for spacing out 8).If anyone has a chance to try this,please let me know how it turns out.



Edit : Still not in game,i uninstalled therefore i couldn't give this a shot but curious to know if it's possible.it's not an exploit (IMO) as you wouldn't circumvent anything and would just use game mechanics the way they were designed.

[moorewr]

Pretty sure you'd lose the fly proc when you enter the explorer area.. haven't checked, but you do lose it when you enter the area above the Reaver (Thern's lair)

[Battleworm]

Pretty sure you'd lose the fly proc when you enter the explorer area.. haven't checked, but you do lose it when you enter the area above the Reaver (Thern's lair)

AFAIK it's why you need one caster to not get fly,he'll open up the explorer area for the others (hence losing fly on dialog) and will also open the black mausoleum - no talking in there just straight out fight.could have been patched tho. :(

[moorewr]

I will have to try getting fly and teleporting! Why hadn't I though of that test before..

[Dozen_Black_Roses]

Morning folks,

I was thinking about the abbott raid yesterday and thought of a possibly neat way to beat it fast and easy.Key word being fast.First,everyone has to be in reaver's refuge.have 11 people grab fly and one have caster who won't get fly wait for group in explorer area ( can also be done with 6 just harder) GT to necropolis.Haste and run inside abbott.Start fighting asap.The trick here is i think from testing that his spells are all linear and won't be shot vertically.So pulverize him from above.Once you get teleported,fly through chasm / water and do the window trick for asteroids.Cleric cast death pact on self when back to main room - it does work i tried it myself.The only difference is if/when you die you get no popup to rez,you're just instantly back to life so gotta be quick.I got encased while soloing with battle and died but used deathpact to rez.

Sorry for the wall of text,very busy at work today and no time for spacing out 8).If anyone has a chance to try this,please let me know how it turns out.



Edit : Still not in game,i uninstalled therefore i couldn't give this a shot but curious to know if it's possible.it's not an exploit (IMO) as you wouldn't circumvent anything and would just use game mechanics the way they were designed.


I would strongly recommend people not do this, people misusing the fly spell in a raid was a basis for bans as soon as mod8 released, inlcuding people in your guild Legion.

[Coldin]

Backing Suz up on this. Using the Fly spell in this manner would clearly be an exploit, and not intended by the developers. It's a near guarantee that doing this would result in a ban of some sort.

[Rommalb]

aside from losing fly when you enter the quest, even if it did work the spell last less than 90 sec, at best you can nuke him to start teleporting you but I really dont see you getting past the puzzles in that time. Heck, it would take some heavily min-maxxed casters to even do that

[moorewr]

I just want to fly around the marketplace.. is that so wrong..?

[Steele]

I just want to fly around the marketplace.. is that so wrong..?


Sounds fun to me!

[Rommalb]

just jump off VON6 then

[moorewr]

just jump off VON6 then

Nah, they keep you in an invisible tube, and then they kill you.

[Battleworm]

I would strongly recommend people not do this, people misusing the fly spell in a raid was a basis for bans as soon as mod8 released, inlcuding people in your guild Legion.

It was that they were using the fly spell to fly to the part 4 chests in the shroud without fighting anything...not quite like this here where you wouldn't avoid a fight...That's assuming you can nuke the abbott fast enough to get to the puzzle part.need 25 seconds of fly max when you get to puzzles and only 2 peeps - asteroid room doesn't require fly.I don't know where it's written you're not to use the fly spell,there isn't any cheating either since you still have to fight straight up.Maybe pm tolero at the worse but that would bring a big target on the person's back imo.

I was only discussing this for those that are out of options and bored out of their mind with the game as i am,besides abbott,what hasn't been done a million times +...

Edit : if the fly spell is not to be used then wtf is it in game for ?! *scratches head* :)

[Rommalb]

I don't know where it's written you're not to use the fly spell

Remember Turbine has a policy of ban first, fix later in people finding issues they havent fixed yet

[Battleworm]

Remember Turbine has a policy of ban first, fix later in people finding issues they havent fixed yet

And i definitely don't wanna put anyone in trouble.Just thought it was an out-of-the-box method that i never heard anyone speak of before...

[Braegan]

I would strongly recommend people not do this, people misusing the fly spell in a raid was a basis for bans as soon as mod8 released, inlcuding people in your guild Legion.

Agreed. The fly spell was intended by the devs to be used only in the Reavers' Refuge for the purpose of getting to the quest SoS. While there might remain loop-holes where you could use the spell in other ways it would only be viewed as an exploit by the devs and would most likely result in a ban. And yes I have heard the arguement of creative thinking and such, but this is not PnP. These are not the comments of a fan boi, just a friendly heads up.

Also, if I ever did attempt the Abbot again I want a legit victory. Maybe I am funny that way but I get a better sense of accomplishment when I beat something fair and square.

[moorewr]

I could have sworn I'd tried teleporting to see if the fly spell stayed with me to no avail back on Risia.. have to try it again..

[Sidhearcher]

Exploit isn't just bypassing for chests. It's circumventing the game's pathing. I asked a dev once, just exactly what they meant by "exploit". She said that it meant something that illegally bypasses the usual course of a quest. That could include:
-To skip a task that would otherwise be essential (like when people used to eat the beholder cookies in the Titan so they could get flung up to the levers via telekinesis rather than do the yellow room)
-To get around a necessary obstacle (like the black dragon in the Abbot prequest).
-To "bug out" a monster (like the so-called "water trick" with the golem at the end of STK).
-To use features of the landscape to escape damage (like the infamous "safe spot" in the old Reaver in gianthold between the pillar and the wall that used to let you hide, take no damage, and still cast/fight).

[Scarsgaard]

I beat Abbot on the first Raid ever. Legitimately.

Myself and 11 other fine gamers went in with a party of heavy hitting casters and crushed it. We spent our bank... did everything to be first and we did it. Then hey nerfed it.. and to be honest.. I could care less.

The loot is mediocre (except the BS)and well.. besides bragging rights.. this quest is highly over shadowed by Shroud and so on...

/my2cents

[Battleworm]

I was mostly thinking of someone giving this a shot without telling everyone when they do it just to see but you're right,it's not worth the stress and trouble for mediocre ~ average loot at best.Bad idea,sorry.