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Strahdbr

04-30-2008, 03:43 PM

Hello guys,

I am currently the leader of Order of Zeh (Ex-Wrath, Ex-Brazilian Knights).

I don´t know if you guys remember us from the old Tharashk days. Our main players were Kruggar, Sver, Khaliel, Chapadaum, Eddiemund amongst others.

Due to the mass cancelation of accounts during the Titan fiasco and subsequent lack of new content we lost our power and now, with the help of some of our old members we are trying to resurge as a remarkable DDO guild.

But we still don´t have enough players to do a 12 man raid.

So i ask you guys if there is any guild that would like to set an alliance with the crazy naked dancing guys (aka Order of Zeh) for Raids and Mutual Help we would appreciate.

Thanks for the space.

It is good to see that my old friends are still playing.

Strahd-BR

nakano

04-30-2008, 04:05 PM

When you need help bro, just call me. The toons are in the sig.

Shyv

04-30-2008, 04:50 PM

If you see me on just send a tell. Characters are in the sig. If I'm not grouped or don't have something going I'm in. I love running raids. :D

Strahdbr

04-30-2008, 06:31 PM

Thaks for the support guys.

Bigpapi

04-30-2008, 07:26 PM

Well, my Portuguese may suck (okay, its non-existant), but I've run with a few of you guys and know you are great players, so feel free to look me up if you need a little extra.

Aexicas

05-02-2008, 03:15 AM

I'm with Kyrian Strahd, look me up if you need help.

By the by, its darn good to see you on again; I think back on all the good players we've lost over the time, and I think the Wrath guys are the group that I'd like to see back the most.

Jundak

05-02-2008, 04:41 PM

What they said, Strahd. Just give me a shout, Bro...

Quintan's dead, by the by. There's another Quintan running around (not me) in Legion. Good guy, though. Solid player.

solstice

05-03-2008, 04:18 AM

Yes, you can count with me and...

:p

bah!

Ministry

06-24-2008, 04:06 PM

Wow... good thing I looked out here, because my past experience with anyone from Order of Zeh was quite poor.

I teamed with a couple of players and found them not only poor in quality of play, but mostly in their ability to team well.

Do they not all speak and understand English?

Ya, that sounds like an insult, but it's not meant to be.

I was so disappointed with my runs with a couple of them that I have pretty much told anyone I know not to team with Order of Zeh players.

Sorry peeps, but it was bad.

I'm not big on second chances, but I will look to allow any Zeh players onto teams I'm involved in because of their relations with ya all.

Xaearth

06-24-2008, 05:37 PM

I know what you mean Min, and I don't think they'll take offense.

Back in the days of BK, me and some guildies had some trouble with some of them because of the language barrier.
But, if you make sure that, in the event that they can't all understand english well, at least one knows it well enough to translate for the others, and simply go slow enough to take into account that there's translation going on (usually better to type things out rather than say over voice), they're pretty good players.

I think it's just that their play suffers when they don't quite understand...
I mean, even if you know the quest and have the general idea about what's going on, if you've got a bunch of people saying stuff that you don't understand...
Well I'd equate that to the infamous D getting a bit too excited with hands-free voice... :eek:

Vic

06-24-2008, 07:13 PM

I think it's just that their play suffers when they don't quite understand...
Having been on the other side of a language barrier with (I believe) a Wrath run of TR way back in the day, I respect anyone that can function in a party conducted in a language other than their own. Even though I don't speak a word of Portuguese, my mind kept trying to translate voice chat and deliver my bardly goodness, and ended up doing neither of them well. :bow:

Strahdbr

06-25-2008, 03:49 PM

Obviously you guys aren´t from Tharashk othwerwise you would know how much the Brazilian guild was once respected in the server.

We lost that respect due to inactivity of our good player base.

What you guys need to understand is that our guild is THE ONLY Brazilian guild in DDO and our objective is to join all portuguese speaking players in one place.

We do not have any kind of restriction, rule or test to add a member to the guild so yes! we do have bad players but we have a lot of good ones too.

I can name at least 10 top players that are or use to be in our guild, people that understand english, know what they are doing, play as a team and ask for information when needed.

We even had a few Americans asking to join us back in the day, good players like Morph...

What you did was a generalization (is that a word?).

Forgot to add something:

Due to the BAD reputation we started a new raiding focused guild Kargat, only capped characters interedted in raids.

All Brazillians, chosen one by one, based on their skills.

Would be a pleasure to show those who do not know us that what i said above is truth. We will even "allow" you in the group Ministry, but only because of your good relationship with my old buddies here :P

We are not the best but we can handle ourselves.

Ministry

06-25-2008, 05:36 PM

Hey Strahdbr... my responses in RED...

Obviously you guys aren´t from Tharashk othwerwise you would know how much the Brazilian guild was once respected in the server.

- Nope, as per my sig, I'm from Xoriat where most Thelanians and a lot of Tharashk players would have never survived... unless they hid in the back, dark recesses of the server and stayed together and out of our way.

What you guys need to understand is that our guild is THE ONLY Brazilian guild in DDO and our objective is to join all portuguese speaking players in one place.

- Some of my best friends are Portuguese, but I never had the pleasure of learning the language.

Would be a pleasure to show those who do not know us that what i said above is truth. We will even "allow" you in the group Ministry, but only because of your good relationship with my old buddies here :P

- WOW... LUCKY ME... ROFLMAO - Based on my RL schedule lately I pretty much have only been running with Legion, but will stop at any chance I get to run with most of the people out here, to renew acquaintances and share new ideas and improvements.

We are not the best but we can handle ourselves.

- SAME. I'm not nearly the best, but I get my fair share of invites... :)

Yes... generalization is a word and it is very common in real life and in game. We have a number of people that don't like Legion because of a few members, but I'm pretty sure if you ask around, few will say that we aren't the best guild, or at least one of the best...

Similar to your old group of people / guild, Legion is made up of either former guild leaders and / or officers, and / or just the best players they could find... by rep and skillz.

Hopefully you can or have run with Legion. They scare me...

;)

Shyv

06-25-2008, 05:44 PM

I'm from Xoriat where most Thelanians and a lot of Tharashk players would have never survived

Ya know. I get tired of reading this Mini.

Outside of Legion and one or two other guilds from Xoriat, I'm not all that impressed with those from Xoriat. They mostly act like they can ride the coat tails of the well known Xoriat guild reputations both in the games and on the forums. Like I said, other than a few of the Xoriat guilds, a lot of the "refugees" talk a good game but can't back it up worth a damn.

Strahdbr

06-25-2008, 05:49 PM

Strahdbr

06-25-2008, 05:52 PM

Ya know. I get tired of reading this Mini.

Outside of Legion and one or two other guilds from Xoriat, I'm not all that impressed with those from Xoriat. They mostly act like they can ride the coat tails of the well known Xoriat guild reputations both in the games and on the forums. Like I said, other than a few of the Xoriat guilds, a lot of the "refugees" talk a good game but can't back it up worth a damn.

From my personal experience i think the Xoriat Elite play exactly how we use to play in Tharashk.

Raid focused, developing new strategy, team work, solo quests, short-man quests, etc...

Shyv

06-25-2008, 05:56 PM

From my personal experience i think the Xoriat Elite play exactly how we use to play in Tharashk.

Raid focused, developing new strategy, team work, solo quests, short-man quests, etc...

Exactly. I think a lot of the time. "I am Xoriat" gets confused with "I am Legion" :D If you run wiht a tough group of S.O.B's all of the time and only PUG out to those you know then that is the overall impression you may get of your server. There are just as many really shitty players that came from Xoriat and Tharashk as there were on Thelanis to begin with. (well maybe not that many. :kick: )

It's just I see so many people proclaiming how great and tough Xoriat was when in reality is was one or two top end elite guilds doing all the work and going about it with an edge and then a bunch of hanger ons that take those guilds accompishments as their own.

solstice

06-25-2008, 06:31 PM

Let me see...

1) I'm Brazilian

2) I play this game since March'06 in Tharashk

3) I was in trouble for language, but - you know - most part of players ALWAYS have respect for this because I build this "Hello, my english isn't so good, so, if have something for know, talk not so fast and I'll take".

4) about Legion & Xoriat: I'm actually officer of Wicked, since the times of Wicked-Rebellion because for this guys like my play style. I played some several times with Legion (the old legion members, the formers of guild when module 5 starts and I join a Xoriatian guild) when they beat the Abbot, and I was on one run that beat this. Some of wicked-Rebellion members are members of Xoriat and you can ask then about me.

5) Xoriat doesn't have nothing more that Tharashk about raids. It's true. You do in 10 minutes? Congrats.
But nobody farmed more DQ as Tigers of Shu and Amen and AtD.
Nobody on all servers run more Dragon runs that me (52 on Sver only, 80 on all chars).
Nobody know this game as Tyger know.
Nobody farmed Titan as Jundak and Kyrian.

Most part of Xoriatians like bug the runs for "do fast". And it's ridiculous. It's a fact.

The results of Merlask's pool in official forums make you all think about "sharks". You do more role play that Thelanis with this "hate proud".

Why Tharashk don't have a "forum life"? Simple: we was raid running. all day, 24/7. Ask Maelstrom for the number of raid runs of guild and how many tokens they did on "server race raid".

7) Yes, most part of lowbies from Zeh (and some level 16) don't speak english. Isn't our language. Few of us know. I'm starting do Zeh runs for raids for makes then learn about the places, strategies and rules.

7) A newbie is a newbie in ANY SERVER, doesnt matter. And Xoriatians give us a lot of cap level players with 100% noob acts.

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Again, I'm not against ANYONE here (player/person). but only against bad attitude of Xoriat/Thelanis/Hell/Heaven/Wharever.

Sorry for this free rant, I'm very bored.

Ministry

06-25-2008, 07:06 PM

Ya know. I get tired of reading this Mini.

Outside of Legion and one or two other guilds from Xoriat, I'm not all that impressed with those from Xoriat. They mostly act like they can ride the coat tails of the well known Xoriat guild reputations both in the games and on the forums. Like I said, other than a few of the Xoriat guilds, a lot of the "refugees" talk a good game but can't back it up worth a damn.

You are so right... what do they say... oh ya... QFT.

There were a number of great players and some damn fine guilds on Xoriat, but sure... it was known mostly for the Legion people and a few others.

Being Xorian lumped you in with those people and guilds and many of them did definitely blend in with the few.

Ministry

06-25-2008, 07:09 PM

Jokes apart i would like to say that would be a pleasure to group with you Ministry.. any time.

I am sure everyone in Kargat would feel the same.

I feel sorry for your bad experience with some of Zeh Members, like i said we have quite a share of bad players, and yes! they do not speak or understand english.

And they will not make any effort to understand what is going on. Gladly one of those players quit the guild a few weeks back.

I am also always looking foward ot make new friends in game.

Hey bro, every guild has weak links.

I guess I just got lucky to find yours... haha

Hey... on my off days, I'm sure some people would be like... "WTF... this fool is in Legion and he can't even find the quest!"

Ya... I'm directionally challenged in RL and in game... we all have our issues.

I look forward to hooking up with you any time in game. Should be a blast... unless I'm having waggro... silly Beautiful Croatian Princess of a wife...

:)

Ministry

06-25-2008, 07:10 PM

Ministry

06-25-2008, 07:15 PM

Exactly. I think a lot of the time. "I am Xoriat" gets confused with "I am Legion" :D If you run wiht a tough group of S.O.B's all of the time and only PUG out to those you know then that is the overall impression you may get of your server. There are just as many really shitty players that came from Xoriat and Tharashk as there were on Thelanis to begin with. (well maybe not that many. :kick: )

It's just I see so many people proclaiming how great and tough Xoriat was when in reality is was one or two top end elite guilds doing all the work and going about it with an edge and then a bunch of hanger ons that take those guilds accompishments as their own.

Ya hit the nail on the f'ing head again.

The biggest problem with the merger was... especially for Xorians... we didn't want to mix in with the new populace. Many Xorians would post LFM's for Xorians only. When I put up an LFM (rarely, because I normally just team with friends...) I would look for names and/or guilds that I recognize... and every once in a rare while I would accept someone that I didn't know, but only if we already had a solid team and the pugger didn't really matter.

From what I've seen, there were probably more quality / top tier players on Tharashk than on Xoriat... and way more on those than Thelanis, which to date I've only seen a couple. Thelanis seemed very weak, but even so, I know that Legion has at least... or did try out a few from Thelanis, but definitely is made up in an overwhelming majority by Xorians.

kruggar

06-25-2008, 07:26 PM

I always think this xoriat, tharask, thelanis thing is a little messy..

we all together now, lets have fun together :)

Most here know me for a very long time and i normally dont post in the forums cause i have not much time but i wanted to say some words.

We have a quick growing brazilian comunity in the server, many new players joined the game and they lvled very fast, much faster then i expected :)

the old players from wrtah are still in the game in many guild like myself (maelstrom) and we will start the "training" of the new ranks.

if something odd happens with members of order of zeh please send a message to myself, strahdbr, sver or chapa and we will talk to them and train them if needed.

we all had tought times when we started playing ddo many many months ago, for those arriving now is a little tought to gain the experience we have as players.

the language barrier is a major problem and i strongly advice for those playing with brazilians that they put things in party chat or explain slowly, some times is hard for me to understand whats going on imagine those that dont speak english well :)

we all a good and friendly comunity in doo and i hope u guys help us in the task to train the new ones..

yours,

kruggar

Ministry

06-25-2008, 07:31 PM

My responses in RED... of course...Let me see...

1) I'm Brazilian

- That's nice.

2) I play this game since March'06 in Tharashk

- Same.

3) I was in trouble for language, but - you know - most part of players ALWAYS have respect for this because I build this "Hello, my english isn't so good, so, if have something for know, talk not so fast and I'll take".

- I totally respect that and have seen it typed in party on a couple of occasions... and since I recognize at least one of your alts, I bet it was you. Oh.. btw... You were damn good and were appreciated by the team.

4) about Legion & Xoriat: I'm actually officer of Wicked, since the times of Wicked-Rebellion because for this guys like my play style. I played some several times with Legion (the old legion members, the formers of guild when module 5 starts and I join a Xoriatian guild) when they beat the Abbot, and I was on one run that beat this. Some of wicked-Rebellion members are members of Xoriat and you can ask then about me.

- I had a lot of friends in Wicked / Wicked Rebellion and we have 4 or 5 of their former members in our guild now... Zharm, Braegan, Lost in Japan, Dorrik...

5) Xoriat doesn't have nothing more that Tharashk about raids. It's true. You do in 10 minutes? Congrats.
But nobody farmed more DQ as Tigers of Shu and Amen and AtD.
Nobody on all servers run more Dragon runs that me (52 on Sver only, 80 on all chars).
Nobody know this game as Tyger know.
Nobody farmed Titan as Jundak and Kyrian.

- I agree... Tharashk guilds were / are very similar to the top Xoriat guilds...

Farming... who cares... everyone farms.

Dragon runs... Why the frick run so many... not that much good stuff... as far as anyone running more... oh I bet Tannk ran it more on Xoriat... I would pretty much guarantee it. The quest doesn't do a thing for me.

Tygre... run with him many times and like the guy. He's funny... but knowing the game better than anyone... Seriously doubt it... I know many players who know the game better. He has taken a back seat in Legion runs and prolly would in GSI and Storm Lord runs.

Don't get me on Titan runs... I think Womp has done it about 100, 200+ times... lost count. Pretty much our whole guild ran it between 8-16 times each on that server race week.

But... We have to do it without Kyrians' better half Mysty/Mykka/etc... that girl and her mind... $&^#^$*# - Hugs and Respect out to that one... Kyrian and Jun just go along for the ride and pick up the shite she can't or won't bother to deal with and they know it.

Most part of Xoriatians like bug the runs for "do fast". And it's ridiculous. It's a fact.

- I know many guilds have done this and that's too bad. Legion did it by accident a few times and then there was so much outcry over using certain tactics, we decided to just do it old school. So, it took us a few extra minutes... Boo f'ing Hoo...

The results of Merlask's pool in official forums make you all think about "sharks". You do more role play that Thelanis with this "hate proud".

- No clue...

Why Tharashk don't have a "forum life"? Simple: we was raid running. all day, 24/7. Ask Maelstrom for the number of raid runs of guild and how many tokens they did on "server race raid".

- I work for a living and have a pretty damn intense job that would prolly bend most peoples minds backwards, so I like to go onto the forums and have some fun and login to the game on my laptop to do some toon maintenance every once in a while at lunch...

And... most Legion members ran between 8-16 toons through every raid on the server race week... so... 30 - 40 people X 12 = 35X12= 420 X 2 - 3 coins each = 1050... give or take a bunch... not bad.

7) Yes, most part of lowbies from Zeh (and some level 16) don't speak english. Isn't our language. Few of us know. I'm starting do Zeh runs for raids for makes then learn about the places, strategies and rules.

- Okay... so I'm directionally challenged and get lost in the zones and quests... big deal, I still manage...

7) A newbie is a newbie in ANY SERVER, doesnt matter. And Xoriatians give us a lot of cap level players with 100% noob acts.

- Agreed...

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Again, I'm not against ANYONE here (player/person). but only against bad attitude of Xoriat/Thelanis/Hell/Heaven/Wharever.

- Bad attitudes are everywhere, but sometimes behind what seems a bad attitude can lurk much, much more... good and / or bad...

Sorry for this free rant, I'm very bored.

- I wouldn't apologize, you made some very strong and interesting points for all to read...

:)

Ministry

06-25-2008, 07:35 PM

Responses in RED...

...

if something odd happens with members of order of zeh please send a message to myself, strahdbr, sver or chapa and we will talk to them and train them if needed.

- Sounds great...

we all had tought times when we started playing ddo many many months ago, for those arriving now is a little tought to gain the experience we have as players.

- Didn't we all. I remember falling to my death about 4 times in STK on day 2 of playing... I can't believe the bunch I ran with invited me to their guild after that performance...

the language barrier is a major problem and i strongly advice for those playing with brazilians that they put things in party chat or explain slowly, some times is hard for me to understand whats going on imagine those that dont speak english well :)

- Again... best thing to do here is to type in Party chat - "I'm not so great with the English language, please be patient... TY" If someone drops ya or says something stupid after that on the party, let me know and / or anyone else out here and we would make their lives a living hell... Just for fun... I can't stand ignoble and ignorant people who would respond in a not so nice way if you typed that into party chat...

we all a good and friendly comunity in doo and i hope u guys help us in the task to train the new ones..

- :)...

yours,

kruggar

:)

Vic

06-25-2008, 08:33 PM

Why Tharashk don't have a "forum life"?
Most of the Tharashk people I knew were on HouseT. I've always been here. I have posted on the DDO boards maybe six times... two of those were to promote GSI e-thuggery.

raven386

06-25-2008, 11:42 PM

Originally Posted by Ministry
I'm from Xoriat where most Thelanians and a lot of Tharashk players would have never survived

Ya know. I get tired of reading this Mini.

Yep.

Yawwwnnnnnn...........

Although their Xorian Hate thread was farking hilarious.

As was this video on the server merge

http://youtube.com/watch?v=asauNxVaRSw

Ministry

06-26-2008, 03:28 PM

Originally Posted by Ministry
I'm from Xoriat where most Thelanians and a lot of Tharashk players would have never survived

Yep.

Yawwwnnnnnn...........

Although their Xorian Hate thread was farking hilarious.

As was this video on the server merge

http://youtube.com/watch?v=asauNxVaRSw

Ya, it's funny how long the Xorian Hate and Hate thread lasted, but I'm guessing that it has a lot to do with my extensive socio-psychological studies or something else, but I noticed quite a big difference between the 3 servers' populace.

Thelanians were very quiet and easy going and seem to have little expectations from themselves or others.

Tharashks were quiet and into achievment.

Xorians were from a server that was very egocentric and very hostile. People over there were big into their guilds and the me vs. you and us vs. you mentality.

It was quite the culture shock from what I saw, which is hilarious because we are all playing the same game.

The "Hate" came from being forced to have to deal with the 2 other server populations and because there was some distinct differences that were so readilly apparent.

I still notice a big differnce between the core players from core guilds from each server.

I ran with GSI last night and it is always the same... easy going bunch, capable and successful. No egos (overt), No drama, just successful implementation.

I've noticed there aren't many Thelanis guilds left and most of the players have been absorbed into Xoriat or Tharashk guilds or formed some new hybrids, but when I do run into people that still call themselves Thelanians, they are generally more reserved and whateverish...

I don't know what it was, but whether you chose to believe is irrelavant, Xoriat was hostile and most guilds didn't get along and it was cool to make inferior players and guilds know that they were that way. There was tonnes of strife and stratification, and most guilds were very homgenous in many ways, but especially if you are at a certain competency level, yoiu would be in a certain guild and would have all your alts in there.

When I run with hard core Xoriats... they are all about xp per minute or how fast can we do this or that... etc... and very competitive.

The other server people are more interested in getting along and doing well.

Ya all can say what you want, but if ya ask Cali or any of the others from Xoriat on this forum, I bet ya they will say the same thing.

Anyways... you are tired of hearing it... I won't post it, cause what the f is the point anyways.

We all are forced to deal with different people every day whether we like it or not and noting the difference is one thing, but to talk about it is just a f'ing waste of time, because nothing is changing. It's just fun to reminice sometimes.

;)

Jules

06-26-2008, 05:05 PM

As you knew the guilds on Xoriat and who you would group with and not. We had the same kind of network on Tharashk. I think within both it was difficult to level without a guild.

As time goes on most are finding that are more in common than not. Which is why we beat the opening of the new raids.

Jules
(we so rock) :wootdance::girldance::punk::rockon:

raven386

06-27-2008, 08:08 PM

Ya, it's funny how long the Xorian Hate and Hate thread lasted, but I'm guessing that it has a lot to do with my extensive socio-psychological studies or something else, but I noticed quite a big difference between the 3 servers' populace.

Anyways... you are tired of hearing it... I won't post it, cause what the f is the point anyways.

;)

Having a point is not always necessary.

These are free and open forums. All opinions and posts are respected.

I think the only limit I see is overt swearing.

Perhaps a new hate thread is needed - noticed that a few peeps were at work and bored today.

:argue:

Ministry

06-30-2008, 05:28 PM

Having a point is not always necessary.

These are free and open forums. All opinions and posts are respected.

I think the only limit I see is overt swearing.

Perhaps a new hate thread is needed - noticed that a few peeps were at work and bored today.

:argue:

Well, it looks like I found someone to argue with / piss me off.

That didn't take long.

:)

So... you are the House T forum police?

Good to know.

So... does WTF count into your overt swearing?

I was making a point.

That work for ya?

Oh... and that is so cuuuute that you credit someone with your builds...

lol

Ministry

06-30-2008, 06:34 PM

...

Due to the BAD reputation we started a new raiding focused guild Kargat, only capped characters interedted in raids.

...

Hey, I finally got to team with one of the Kargat guys.

He was pretty decent on our shroud run, but had some challenges in our next run on the hound... he kept getting stunned by the Mindflayers and left me alone with a cleric on 3 occasions. It was so funny.

I was like... ummm... Hi stunned guy... run past and kill flayer... run past again... kill another mob or two, come back and he's moved a bit, but stunned again and I have to kill another flayer... it happened 3 times...

It was so funny.

But, he seemed like a nice guy and said it was his only toon, so I didn't say any of my usual shite... you know... Like... "ummm... dOOd... REROLL".

I remember my first build... OUCH!!!

:)

Overall, I give him a B for gameplay and well, I'm sure we have all had our brains sucked out by a flayer. Pretty good for only having one toon.

Sorry I can't remember his name... somethink that was only 4 or 5 letters and started with an "A".

:)

Jules

06-30-2008, 06:48 PM

Actually we haven't set any limits at this time. Admin and Moderator hats those are worn by me and Coldin.

You want a Hate thread - go for it, don't know how much it will be used.

Why are we self moderating, we quest a lot together and are friends in game. There is a lot of respect here, you usually don't go off on someone you respect, unlike the ddo forums that are full of fanboi's and trolls.

Jules

Strahdbr

07-01-2008, 10:54 AM

Anão (Dwarf in Portuguese) is the guy you ran with.

It is his first character, 28 pts build.

He is a great guy, i know him IRL and he tries really hard to keep up with the old players.

I think he started earlier this year, and he works all day, so he doesn´t have a lot of time for leveling up a lot of characters.

He is one of the luckiest guys i ever had the pleasure to meet in raid and rare loots.

Ask him if he have that one piece of loot you are trying to find for 2 years now and he will say "yeah i got it my first run".

Like Chaos Guard, first run, Planar Gird, first run, Tome STR +3, 20th run (this run he got a +3 Wis in the 20th reward list too), Chaterring Ring, first run, etc...

Jules

07-01-2008, 11:07 AM

nakano

07-01-2008, 03:57 PM

Anao is solid. Have grouped with him on a variety of occasions.